MARKETS HAPPY HOUR PODCAST

In this week's Markets Happy Hour Podcast we are joined with Dr. David Kelly of J P Morgan Asset Management. Both of us are delicately negotiating stairs based on having run Monday's Boston Marathon, so we share our race experiences and – naturally – relate them to some of our market observations. The first of these is – "Beware the Downhill" – the Boston marathon is notorious for its long downhill section at the beginning and for the uninitiated, or undisciplined or the simply euphoric, it can be a damaging start – particularly to the quads. The second is pattern recognition – while 8 year consecutive runners like David can rely on the pattern recognition of the 130 year old course, in markets pattern recognition has been more difficult given the length of the upswings and the downswings are shifting to become longer, and shorter, respectively. The third is innovation – we discussed the appeal of products such as the super shoes as well as gel products – and while David prefers the unique marathon fuel of dense traditional Christmas cake (of the fruitcake variety) he does wear "super shoes" and does believe in making small changes designed to generate small, incremental improvements. And clearly they were successful for him in 2026. We move then to the question of inflation and the "landmark" analogy we have used of the Eiffel Tower – inflation tends to rise steeply and then fall steeply. David's view is that this is a temporary aberration in that the economy is not "inflation prone". We dig into this concept at little looking at the three factors that render the economy not inflation prone, and suggest that this leaves more leeway for interest rate cuts in time. Staying on the factors that render the economy not inflation prone, we discuss the waning power of labor and pricing power that workers enjoy, discuss how this translates into earnings, which have remained strong. We compare the resilient US consumer to the European consumer, and David suggests that there may be a case of a different mindset around austerity that applies in the US and Europe and certainly a different approach to spending. We cycle through equity markets dynamics, the validity of the rotation into the Russell 2000 stock market and other factors that have been underpinning the markets and end with a quick discussion of the current private credit dynamics, asking if the current concentration is really a concern, and likely to be a systemic problem or something that adjusts and plays out over time.